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Friday, July 7, 2017

Dolutegravir and R263K



This was originally published here, in French. We provide this translation for your convenience, practical aspects may differ where you live.

Our Summer 2017 series: DOMONO will have been, in fact, a real SUCCESS!
- Dolutegravir and the R263K
- the R263K: new scenario (DOMONO)
- the N155H: new scenario (DOMONO)
- Nevirapine and Mono-DTG Switch: the Hunchback Trap
- calculation error in the primary hypothesis
- DOMONO and the benefit for the patients (not for BigPharma ...)


Absolutegravir, Dolutegravir and the R263K

By Charles Edouard!

Some news from Backy:
A small pick up in ASAT is not a cause for concern; At 5 or 10 times the limit, yes, this would be worrying; You are far from that! This is a successful case of Tivicay® monotherapy; Once settled, you can watch what others do, such as jesuisdu13 who uses mono-Tivicay ® at 4/7 ...

When Dolutegravir mimics Absolutegravir ...


Here, I simplify greatly ... also reread our post on : Absolutegravir, a fantasized molecule.

Absolutegravir is computer-designed on a digitized 'Wild-type' Integrase; a docking software tests millions of configurations. Then, they rerun on mutated, digitized integrases; Finally, on common enzymes to avoid side effects.

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In the computer-aided design of DTG, we do not yet have the digitized mutated integrases (besides, which mutations?). So DTG is designed on 'wild-type' integrase and confronted with known mutations of RAL and EVG. Its efficacy, which is assumed to be absolute, is specific to the unmutated 'wild-type' integrase. It is a good start, and more effective than the usual cuisine that gave birth to Raltegravir. Everything is a matter of timing ... I simplify to the extreme, in fact, it's a huge job!

The R263K: a deep Darwinian well


In the very first trials, we observe (by luck or design insight), a phenomenon quite unique in its extent, not seen in test tubes. The mutation of choice of DTG is R263K. It is hard to find in tests tube (known as 'passages'), but it is found in the VIKING trial and in tissue passage tests (a McGill, Montreal, exclusive)

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This mutation has two characteristics: it confers a very modest resistance, almost nothing, and the mutated virus has only one desire: stay home: it has no ease to replicate: its low fitness makes it unfit. It's almost a 'Junk'. It falls in its hole and stays there, happily: Let's call this a Darwinian black hole or Darwinian well.

When the pharmacological pressure acts on a wild-type virus, it decreases (without mutating) or mutates with the R263K, which, remarkably, makes the pharmacological pressure even more effective. Conversely, when the pharmacological pressure decreases, the virus regains vigor, including, in the first instance, its R263K mutant. Further, by the effect of "survival of the fittest', the historical virus, wild-type, takes over and we lose track of the mutant.

On a wild-type virus, DTG acts as an Absolutegravir


As long as one remains within this binary system, R263K mutation is beneficial. It is a marker, an epiphenomenon, and it is not the cause of a VL increase (whereas the drop in pharmaceutical pressure is); It accompanies it, kicking and screaming, to finally disappear.

As long as you have a wild-type virus, especially on integrase, Dolutegravir acts as an Absolutegravir. The owners of Absolutegravir will want to keep their trump card until the end, and ViiV HealthCare is not going to come and explain that the naïve patient, with a wild-type virus, has a molecule that has all the advantages of an Absolutegravir.

This is how Lanzafame succeeds with his DTG monotherapies on naïve, selected patients, how I managed Hypodolu (overdosed), Minidolu (Tivicay® 1/4 of a pill, daily) and DTG + 3TC in 1/7

Here is a first clue for reading DOMONO, our summer serial!

Good holiday, good fuck, beware of the sun, and long live the Eclipse!

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This was originally published here, in French. We provide this translation for your convenience, practical aspects may differ where you live.

Our Summer 2017 series: DOMONO will have been, in fact, a real SUCCESS!
- Dolutegravir and the R263K
- the R263K: new scenario (DOMONO)
- the N155H: new scenario (DOMONO)
- Nevirapine and Mono-DTG Switch: the Hunchback Trap
- calculation error in the primary hypothesis
- DOMONO and the benefit for the patients (not for BigPharma ...)


4 comments:

  1. Hello
    If the ratio cd4 / CD8 is always lower than 1 and remains around 0; 7 my cd4 to 430 now 30%
    Under treatment of tivicay for 1 year and still undetectable ...
    Vih since 2008 and beginning treatment 2011..differente sort then mono kaletra and now tivicay always + - well supported ... I did a test of resistance at the beginning that showed at that time that I did not ....
    Then I ask for a relief or should I wait for one. Best report cd4 cd8 ... or an ascent of my cd4?
    I am followed in barcelona in Spain
    thank you for your opinion

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  2. The CD4 / CD8 ratio is never an inclusion criterion for aleviation. NEVER. In ICCARRE 93% of pateints had a ratio <1, at entry.
    In ANRS-4D, there was no CD4 / CD8 criterion. To believe that the ratio must be greater than 1 to enter the alleviation is absolutely false. The argument circulates but it has no scientific base and besides, under the conditions of inclusion, it is never asked for.

    In Barcelona there are doctors very aware of aleviation (Dr Martinez and Dr JL Blanco), it is very favorable!
    https://charles-edouard-ma-liberte.blogspot.fr/p/medecins-allegeurs.html

    It is not clear whether you are under Tivicay (tm) in mono, bi or triple therapy. Aleviation trials with Triumeq will begin. For now, we only have scattered testimonials on the Internet. Prof. Katlama iditifies the achilles heel as a risk factor (a risk factor that can be seen in the patient's history but not on the genotype); A priori you do not have it.
    So we do not quite see what relief you want. Bi (DTG + RPV or DTG + 3TC) lightening is well documented to consider it under medical supervision. Also for mono-DTG; 4/7 with DTG / 3TC / ABC is documented only through testimonies that are consistent; Even for the 4/7 schedule with mono-DTG.

    Tivicay (tm), can, in the long run create a depressive effect. It is more and more reported, eventhough initially we did not know it.

    The pillars of the aleviation are: Efficiency, progressivity, frequent VL. It is necessary to verify the effectiveness using VLs (2 months)

    We must not depart from the frequent VLs. How are you going to organize this in Spain? In France, it can be done without a prescription (60 Euros).

    Thank you for sharing your Spanish experience.

    Besides, if you can, try to help us. We hope that one of our readers will be kind enough to translate this document into Spanish:
    https://charles-edouard-ma-liberte.blogspot.fr/p/guide-pratique-safe-47.html

    Testify, share, translate, etc! Keep us posted!

    This blog is not a medical advice

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    1. Thank you for your quick reply…
      In fact I take that tivicay 1.cp a day ... I want to reduce the quantity and get to 4 dosage a week or less ... like you ...
      I feel fatigue and muscle aches ... especially after sleeping ... I feel like I did in marathon the day before!
      I try to do a lot of sports ... I am 54 years too ... then ... the pain can come from non age but well .. Many younger people do also complain ... so I start thinking that these drugs have toxicity ...
      I will see my doctor with him in October I will talk to him about it trying to prepare a little with some reference in terms of alevaition ...
      I will see how he reacts. Already the tivicay (tm) was prescribed on my request and my doc had to insist on not missing any pill ..
      After that there are private labs here too ...
      If not I can consult or ask for an opinion in France because I have a French Health Insurrance too ...
      Thanks in any case for all this info ... till now I was blind and trusted the system ... but as I started reading this blog I am shocked ..

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    2. The mono-Tivicay (tm) is already an advanced alleviation. I'm currently writing posts on how DTG works (which can be tricky, due to its dual operation, see next post)
      I also have some news regarding its pharmacokinetics and it is rather favorable. I am writing the practical guide Mono Tivicay. The DOMONO trial is double-sided, successful for some, failure for the others ... It shows very well that the initial validation of the monotherapy is 12-18 months, and that the recommendation of your doctor is very just ; Me, I take Tivicay (tm) breaking it with a blow between the teeth and with a meal: it increases the bioavailability.
      As for the Mono-DTG aleviation in 4/7 (for example), to my knowledge, only Dr. Lafeuillade (Toulon) said he was going to try. When you see my guide on the mono of Tivicay (tm) you will see that there are traps. So a validation over 1 year seems a good idea.
      In addition to me (DTG 50 mg + 3TC 300mg, Saturday and Sunday (5 months) or DTG 100 mg + 3TC 600mg, Sunday (1 month)) I know (credibly) of the users Mono-DTG 50 mg 4 / 7 and Bi users (DTG + x) in 4/7. I remember one thing from their testimony: they advanced very gradually.

      And what concerns the joint pains (welcome to the club! ...) I made a few pesonal findings, which I prefer to share by email than on the blog.

      Yes the blog is surprising! If you knew how I was shocked when I discovered ICCARRE!
      Everything is well published in a scientific literature that other media 'forget'; too bad. Hence the importance of sharing.

      You saw that we have a version in Portuguese. I call for a Spanish version

      This blog is not a medical advice

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